Do I Have To Register My Spark Drone

cundare Offline lvl.1 + Add Friend Person Message United states Offline	1 # Here'south what's confusing.  The Spark has a 300g "takeoff weight" but  without its 95g battery, weighs well-nigh 205g, well nether the 0.55lb/250g  minimum requirement for FAA registration.  (See, for example, the FAA.gov  certificate "geting_started/model_aircraft/media/UAS_Weights_Registration.pdf").  So  it appears that, based on the almost authoritative source of information available, you don't need to annals a Spark.  Withal, the Web is total of claims that the Spark is subject field to registration.  I'thousand guessing that the confusion is because the statute under which the FAA enacted its registrations did not specify whether battery weight should be included.  However, the FAA document states that the weight it considers does not include "the weight of a camera, sensor, bombardment or other device that may be added to the aircraft as an pick, thereby increasing the shipping'south weight."  That seems pretty clear. Anybody take additional insight into this? Favorite ii Like 2
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PS013 Offline PS013 Helm Flying distance : 3579409 ft + Add Friend Person Message United States Offline	2 # I don't retrieve you can call the battery an option, as it can non takeoff without information technology ....
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PS013 Offline PS013 Captain Flight distance : 3579409 ft + Add Friend Person Message United States Offline	3 # Oh, and if I recollect properly, in that location was a label on the box of my spark stating it demand to be registered ...
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dj_dread Offline dj_dread Captain Flight distance : 648399 ft + Add together Friend Person Message Romania Offline	4 # "take off weight" includes the battery as well.
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hallmark007 Online hallmark007 Helm Flight distance : 7545676 ft >>> + Add Friend Person Message Ireland Offline	5 # For the sake of $5 I don't run across any problem here, remember the fact that y'all accept a registered drone will help y'all out when flying outside.
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peselito Offline peselito lvl.3 + Add Friend Person Message The states Offline	7 # hallmark007 Posted at 2018-1-27 16:02 For the sake of $five I don't see any problem hither, think the fact that you accept a registered drone will aid you out when flying outside. Hey! I was wondering which registration I accept to exercise on the FAA site. Since I am using the drone for hobby and recreational usage only, I was thinking that section 336 (flying nether special rule for model aircraft) is the way to go. Am I correct with that assumption?
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hallmark007 Online hallmark007 Captain Flight distance : 7545676 ft >>> + Add Friend Person Message Ireland Offline	8 # peselito Posted at 2018-ane-27 16:55 Hey! I was wondering which registration I take to exercise on the FAA site. Since I am using the drone for hobby and recreational usage only, I was thinking that section 336 (flying under special dominion for model aircraft) is the way to go. Yes that's all you lot need to practice.
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A CW Offline A CW Helm Flight distance : 13838848 ft >>> + Add Friend Person Message United Kingdom Offline	9 # I've checked their website and information technology doesn't legally stipulate 'payload weight' or 'weight upon take off' - just that the drone needs to be over 250g to annals... Common sense dictates that the battery will obviously need to be included as part of the drone in social club to gain lift into airspace and I would therefore annals the Spark as over 250g with the battery fitted just legally that could be debatable equally it's not stated in the FAA'southward requirements for registration. An oversight on their function.
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"Bohemian"1776 Offline "Maverick"1776 First Officer Flight distance : 22123 ft + Add Friend Person Message The states Offline	11 # Since Spark weighs .66lbs, and FAA mandates registration of .55lbs or higher, I registered mine. It'due south only $five for three years. Improve to exist safe and in compliance.
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Grmachine Offline Grmachine Second Officer + Add together Friend Person Message United States Offline	12 # Spark requires registration.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.1 + Add together Friend Person Bulletin U.s. Offline	thirteen # Grmachine Posted at 2018-one-28 17:36 Spark requires registration. Thank you for all the quick responses, but please read my question a little more than closely.  The FAA document I cited gives specific examples of which drones crave registration, stating repeatedly that it does not consider bombardment weight when making these determinations.  These slightly cryptic statements are the just ones I can find online by the FAA on this consequence , merely they'eastward repeated so ofttimes in the document that the FAA evidently considers this an important issue.  My question is about  reconciling this document with the commonly held online belief that the Spark -- well nether .55lb/250g w/o battery -- falls within the scope of the regs in question.  In other words, this FAA document -- from the most authoritative source -- strongly implies that the Spark may not crave registration. I submitted this question to the FAA itself last week, but accept not received a response.  I asked the question here b/c I thought that somebody else in the customs might accept already fabricated what I'd have expected to be an obvious query. If not, I'll post the FAA's response here, if i arrives.
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S-e-ven Offline S-due east-ven Captain Flight distance : 5835331 ft + Add Friend Person Message Thailand Offline	fourteen # >does non include "the weight of a camera, sensor, battery or other device that may exist added to the aircraft equally an option,< The 'option' camera would be the not needed Get-Pro on a <250g DIY racequad plus a 2d battery to gain some real air-fourth dimension. Every bit long yous can't fly a quad with a weight under 250g, there are no options hither
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Vivid Spark Offline Brilliant Spark First Officer Flight distance : 22129 ft + Add together Friend Person Message U.k. Offline	16 # If a manufacturer's batt of l g were available, then no reg would be required. You could still take practiced pictures with five min flight time. Plus many hobbyist drones have  variable configurations. Although I'm in Britain, registration is coming.
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fansde510068 Offline fansde510068 lvl.3 + Add together Friend Person Message United States Offline	17 # In the U.s. it cost $5 every three years. With the flip-flop of having to register hobby quads then non having to and then having to you might besides register it. If you are not doing illegal things with your craft either there is near no reason you will always have to bear witness to someone that it is registered. Only reason to be worried about beingness able to track your craft is if its existence used for illegal things.
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Bright Spark Offline Bright Spark First Officer Flight distance : 22129 ft + Add Friend Person Message United Kingdom Offline	18 # I am happy to annals mine. Not proverb it ever will, but if flying a quad less than 250g meant less restriction on when and where information technology could take identify, I would exist very keen. Y'all'd get around 15 per cent longer with the weight loss, and more with the latest batt tech. Maybe best office of 10 mins.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.1 + Add Friend Person Bulletin United states of america Offline	19 # FWIW, I received an respond today from DJI support stating that FAA registration is not required for the Spark.
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sSkyPilot Offline sSkyPilot Get-go Officer Flight distance : 311089 ft + Add Friend Person Message United states Offline	20 # Huh... I'd estimate the rule applies to a aircraft with a battery in it to be used the wing above ground. And regardless, registration online is $5. and takes less than 5 minutes. But read the rules  Small Unmanned Aircraft during sign-upwardly. Get to it....
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Vivid Spark Offline Bright Spark First Officer Flight distance : 22129 ft + Add Friend Person Message United Kingdom Offline	21 # Although I'm in United kingdom, sounds skillful non to annals.Whether CAA volition follow is open. It'due south immaterial to me in terms of money etc, just I live in hope that sub 250 gm drones generate a lower profile.
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FatherXmas Offline FatherXmas Helm Flight altitude : 4058619 ft >>> + Add Friend Person Message U.s. Offline	22 # I recollect reading somewhere that the weight includes everything required to take off which would include the battery. Since there seems to be a lot of conflicting data about the need to annals or not, merely my opinion, I remember I'd go ahead and register. For $5, why risk information technology? From the FAA website: 'You will be bailiwick to civil and criminal penalties if y'all meet the criteria to register an unmanned aircraft and do not register.'
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Aeromirage Offline Aeromirage Helm Flight altitude : 1778045 ft >>> + Add together Friend Person Message United States Offline	23 # This is from DJI.com https://world wide web.dji.com/flyingtips/us?from=dji-shop zzj.jpg (0 Bytes, Downward times: 25)
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Coppertop Offline Coppertop lvl.4 Flight distance : 168658 ft + Add Friend Person Message Usa Offline	25 # cundare Posted at 2018-1-thirty 12:59 FWIW, I received an answer today from DJI support stating that FAA registration is not required for the Spark. With all due respect, DJI is not the FAA. Information technology's simply $v, good for 3 years and covers multiple drones. Just register it and fly with one less worry.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.i + Add together Friend Person Message Us Offline	26 # Aeromirage Posted at 2018-ane-30 17:36 This is from DJI.com https://www.dji.com/flyingtips/united states?from=dji-store OK, I'thousand done with this thread.  Virtually all the responses were merely guesses, and DJI is apparently the well-nigh administrative source available, since the FAA has not responded to my inquiries and has posted only ambiguous information.  And no, the $5 is Non the event, for chrissakes, but this is something, as the lawyers say, upon which reasonable mindsd may differ.  Anybody who tin can't effigy out why the NY Times reports that the overwhelming bulk of drone users practise non register their units is welcome to go pay the $5 for a device that does not require registration. Simply thanks for all the responses anyway.  Unless I hear differently from someone with unambiguous primary-source informatio, the issue is closed: although registration is required for DJI'southward older models, the Spark falls below the FAA's weight limit, based on the way that the FAA interprets the statutory requirements.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.1 + Add Friend Person Bulletin United States Offline	28 # cundare Posted at 2018-one-31 12:ten OK, I'thou done with this thread.  Near all the responses were but guesses, and DJI is apparently the almost authoritative source available, since the FAA has not responded to my inquiries and has posted only ambiguous information.  And no, the $5 is Non the issue, for chrissakes, just this is something, as the lawyers say, upon which reasonable mindsd may differ.  Anybody who can't effigy out why the NY Times reports that the overwhelming bulk of drone users do not register their units is welcome to go pay the $5 for a device that does non require registration. But thank you for all the responses anyway.  Unless I hear differently from someone with unambiguous primary-source informatio, the event is closed: although registration is required for DJI's older models, the Spark falls below the FAA's weight limit, based on the way that the FAA interprets the statutory requirements. ...but I will forrard Aeromirage'south link to my DJI customer-service rep to reconcile the information she personally provided me (about no Spark registration requirement) with the conflicting statement at the bottom of Aeromirage'south DJI link.  Perchance she was incorrect? Maybe the page needs updating?  If I get any new information, I'll mail service it hither. Thanks, Cap!
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Coppertop Offline Coppertop lvl.4 Flight distance : 168658 ft + Add Friend Person Message United States Offline	29 # Per the document you linked in the original mail service... "The listed weights do not include the weight of a camera, sensor, battery or other devices that may exist added to the aircraft as an pick, thereby increasing the aircraft's weight." Concluding I noticed the battery on the Spark is non an option. It is a requirement for flight, not an choice. Seems pretty straightforward that the Spark meets the threshold weight to require registration. A photographic camera or sensor becomes optional when the blueprint allows it to be easily removed and not required for flying. If yous desire to take the run a risk and non register your Spark, that'south a risk you take just it could turn out to be a costly ane.
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Bright Spark Offline Bright Spark First Officeholder Flight altitude : 22129 ft + Add Friend Person Bulletin U.k. Offline	31 # So if designed with 2 batts,if only 1 of which would  be required for flying, we're there! There's cypher wrong with pattern tailored to the rules. Car manufacturers and many others accommodate designs to comply. Every bit I posted in a parallel thread, my interest, in the United kingdom, is that legitimate flight is so restricted, that a drone deemed a toy might be a amend bet.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.1 + Add Friend Person Message United States Offline	32 # Coppertop Posted at 2018-1-31 nineteen:56 Per the certificate y'all linked in the original post... "The listed weights exercise non include the weight of a photographic camera, sensor, battery or other devices that may be added to the aircraft as an option, thereby increasing the shipping'due south weight." I just heard back from DJI customer support today who confirmed that, despite the aforementined DJI link (which apparently just has not been updated to include the Spark), the DJI Spark does non take to be registered with the FAA unless used for commercial purposes.  I'm still waiting for the FAA to reply to my request for information. And all sources tell me that hobbyist drone registration is pretty much never enforced, although I would certainly want to be in compliance regardless.  At this point, in that location seems to be little chance, based on my due diligence, of a "costly fault."
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Coppertop Offline Coppertop lvl.4 Flight distance : 168658 ft + Add Friend Person Bulletin United States Offline	33 # cundare Posted at 2018-ii-1 12:48 I only heard back from DJI client support today who confirmed that, despite the aforementined DJI link (which manifestly simply has non been updated to include the Spark), the DJI Spark does not have to exist registered with the FAA unless used for commercial purposes.  I'm nonetheless waiting for the FAA to answer to my request for data. And all sources tell me that hobbyist drone registration is pretty much never enforced, although I would certainly want to be in compliance regardless.  At this point, at that place seems to be piffling chance, based on my due diligence, of a "plush mistake." Sorry. The FAA isn't going to give you lot a pass because DJI said y'all didn't have to annals the Spark or considering your "sources" say that hobby drone registration is pretty much never enforced. It's a $5 expensive that may never come into play but if it does, can save yous a world of headaches. Glad it's you risking things and not me.
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cundare Offline cundare lvl.1 + Add together Friend Person Bulletin United States Offline	34 # Coppertop Posted at 2018-2-ane 15:29 Sorry. The FAA isn't going to give yous a laissez passer considering DJI said you didn't have to annals the Spark or because your "sources" say that hobby drone registration is pretty much never enforced. Let information technology go, Coppertop.  The issue appears to be settled.  If that doesn't fit your personal agenda, y'all tin can either: i) brand the effort to find and present credible rebuttal show from a primary source (and if you tin can add something new and constructive to the chat, certain, I'd capeesh that) or ii) STFU and motility on. Sitting there and simply sniping at me because, when I did the work to brainwash myself about the issue, I came to an unavoidable determination that you don't want to exist truthful isn't a grown-up selection. That'south my last word on the subject until / if / when I hear dorsum directly from the FAA.  My fourth dimension's besides valuable to wast on trolls.
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Coppertop Offline Coppertop lvl.4 Flight distance : 168658 ft + Add Friend Person Bulletin United States Offline	35 # cundare Posted at 2018-2-2 11:48 Allow information technology go, Coppertop.  The event appears to be settled.  If that doesn't fit your personal agenda, you tin either: i) make the effort to discover and present credible rebuttal evidence from a primary source (and if you lot can add together something new and constructive to the conversation, sure, I'd capeesh that) or ii) STFU and move on. Sitting there and just sniping at me because, when I did the piece of work to brainwash myself about the issue, I came to an unavoidable conclusion that you don't want to be true isn't a grown-up option. Here'south hoping it all works out for the best and yous never face a hefty fine for ignoring the obvious.
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k9education Offline k9education lvl.1 Flying distance : 184 ft + Add Friend Person Message Offline	36 # cundare Posted at 2018-i-31 12:10 OK, I'g done with this thread.  Nearly all the responses were just guesses, and DJI is apparently the most authoritative source available, since the FAA has not responded to my inquiries and has posted simply ambiguous information.  And no, the $five is Not the effect, for chrissakes, simply this is something, as the lawyers say, upon which reasonable mindsd may differ.  Anybody who can't figure out why the NY Times reports that the overwhelming majority of drone users practice not annals their units is welcome to go pay the $5 for a device that does non require registration. But thanks for all the responses anyway.  Unless I hear differently from someone with unambiguous primary-source informatio, the consequence is airtight: although registration is required for DJI's older models, the Spark falls beneath the FAA's weight limit, based on the style that the FAA interprets the statutory requirements. At that place is no ambiguity in the FAA's guidelines on this matter.  None.  It states, quite clearly: "Unmanned aircraft weighing less than 55 pounds and more than 0.55 pounds  (250 grams) on takeoff, including everything that is on lath or otherwise fastened to the aircraft and operated outdoors in the national  airspace organisation must register." The uas_weights_registration.pdf certificate you lot referenced has admittedly no bearing on this topic at all.  It is simply providing examples of drones which, under the assumption manufacturer weights are accurate, would not need to exist registered.  It fifty-fifty makes a signal of specifying that whatsoever optional equipment added to the aircraft, such as an improver camera or extra capacity battery, are not included in these weights and the certificate conspicuously implies that the addition of such equipment may button it over the 250g limit. You can exercise any you lot'd like of form, but ignorance of the police force doesn't absolve you from culpability.  Perhaps y'all should take that $5 and put it towards a reading comprehension course at the local customs college.
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k9education Offline k9education lvl.ane Flight distance : 184 ft + Add Friend Person Bulletin Offline	38 # Since you, literally, need information technology spelled out for y'all, here you go: https://federaldroneregistration ... onestoberegistered/
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stuka75 Offline stuka75 First Officer Flight distance : 85682 ft + Add together Friend Person Message Offline	40 # k9education Posted at 2018-5-xiii 20:37 Since y'all, literally, need it spelled out for you lot, here you lot go: https://federaldroneregistration.com/requireddronestoberegistered/ LOL. Good 1. In addition FWIW, the pilot is registered, not the drone for hobby flying. The pilots FAA number needs to be on the drone/aircraft.
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Bing Err Offline Bing Err Helm Flight altitude : 9249964 ft >>> + Add Friend Person Message The states Offline	41 # FatherXmas Posted at 2018-one-30 17:24 I recall reading somewhere that the weight includes everything required to take off which would include the battery. Since there seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the need to annals or not, just my opinion, I think I'd get alee and register. For $5, why adventure it? From the FAA website: 'You will be subject to civil and criminal penalties if you meet the criteria to register an unmanned aircraft and do non register.' Has anyone every been prosecuted to ceremonious and criminal penalties for non registering their drone?
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Madwand Offline Madwand Second Officer Flying distance : 73018 ft + Add Friend Person Message Offline	42 # "Maverick"1776 Posted at 2018-1-28 17:xxx Since Spark weighs .66lbs, and FAA mandates registration of .55lbs or higher, I registered mine. Information technology'southward only $five for iii years. Better to be safety and in compliance. Its $25 for 3 years, not $5.
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FatherXmas Offline FatherXmas Captain Flight distance : 4058619 ft >>> + Add together Friend Person Bulletin Us Offline	44 # Madwand Posted at 2018-five-14 21:01 Its $25 for three years, not $5. That is not correct,  You must exist looking at a tertiary party site, the actual FAA  site is $5 for 3 years. https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/
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dronego Offline dronego lvl.3 + Add Friend Person Message United States Offline	46 # Madwand Posted at 2018-v-14 21:01 Its $25 for iii years, non $five. i simply chosen FAA a few min ago. DJI spark needs to be registered. I only registered, $5 for 3 yrs and got my registration number
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NedUK Offline NedUK lvl.4 Flight distance : 555262 ft + Add Friend Person Bulletin Uk Offline	47 # Do you take a reason why you don't want to annals? Y'all seem to be going well out of your way to say that other people are not reading these post correct but the info is right in that location. I meet optional cameras and battery's (some people strap and wire in extra battery's) every bit the option element hither.. The fact is your Spark is over the weight with everything it needs to fly.. that'due south the weight that is going to hit someone on the head or crash into someone's property. Pay your $five and have peace of mind
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Madwand Offline Madwand Second Officeholder Flight distance : 73018 ft + Add Friend Person Message Offline	48 # FatherXmas Posted at 2018-5-15 07:24 That is not right,  You must be looking at a 3rd party site, the actual FAA  site is $5 for 3 years. https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/ I judge i got suckered...
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bentbrent Offline bentbrent lvl.1 Flight distance : 39314 ft + Add together Friend Person Message Usa Offline	49 # Despite all the claims and counter claims over whether or not you need to register a Spark, behave this in mind: if yous register with the FAA for recreation purposes only, yous Do NOT annals the bodily drone. You annals yourself. Yous are issued a number that you lot put on all your drones. The FAA doesn't keep track of how many, or which drones you have.
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Crystalskulls Offline Crystalskulls lvl.i + Add together Friend Person Message Canada Offline	50 # Yes to lighter bombardment!!! If the spark had a lighter bombardment information technology would fall under the 250 gram weight....now if yous were flying with that battery is some other story.. Be similar having a inside way out....   Yes now has capability  of a accept off weight of less then 250..with smaller battery... . Answer aye I would buy this item
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Do I Have To Register My Spark Drone,

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